The whole point is, less Illegals, better heathcar
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Posted On: 04/04/2019 9:47:58 AM
Re: Evil Rabbit #16
The whole point is, less Illegals, better heathcare due to less burden on the system. It's simple facts and math. How old are you Evil? You kind of sound like you are young and not very educated on history. Socialism has never and will never be the primary system of the United States. The 2nd amendment protects us from everything that has happened in other countries, especially like most recently Venezuela. Sure there are some programs that use a part of socialism as a standard, but you nor I had anything to do with that. And as you can see, most of those programs are struggling and failing here and around the world. I've been paying into social security for almost 30 years, the sad part is, people keep robbing it, or want to expand it and i'm afraid it will not be there when I am retirement age. Universal healthcare is a failure. It will never work. Heck one recent example.. http://fortune.com/2019/03/08/finland-governm...alth-care/
Obama care was a failure and violated my rights. If I did not want healthcare, that is my right not to have it. But when it became mandatory and fines were imposed, that violated my right to chose. The main problem with Obama care was that all the places you could get it pulled out of the states leaving two, or most times one, provider for the entire state. This led them to be a monopoly and could charge whatever they wanted for healthcare. Another example of how Socialism fails everytime - No competition leads to corruption, higher taxes, and pricing - I always ask this question. What good is having healthcare if you can't even afford to pay your deductible or your premium? Do you just want to say, hey everybody, I have healthcare now? That is pointless. And one good thing, yes people who couldn't get it before now have access to it. But when all the competition left the states, prices skyrocketed, and most of those people could no longer afford it. Its a damned if you do, damned if ya don't.
To people saying we should just grant amnesty to the illegals, that is like your kid going to the store, stealing something, and you saying, oh thats ok... Try not to do it again, but enjoy what you stole. It has not worked the last 8 times we have done it, what would be different about the next time? That is the definition of insanity. Doing something over and over and expecting a different result. When there are no repercussions for peoples actions, it becomes OK to do and more and more will follow - Example our southern border - Oh and by the way, I live in Arizona. I have seen planes fly over the border and drop bails of drugs on the US side where people go in and bring it to the rest of the country from there. I have seen Ranchers killed just so they can sneak over more people or use their house as a pathway to come into the country. I have seen trucks loaded up with illegals and they catch them, to find half of the people in the semi truck dead because there was no air circulation in 120 degree weather.
2nd and bigger talking point about Illegal Aliens is ask yourself this, Do you think it is fair, that someone has to wait years to become a legal citizen of the country, while others break the law and just hop the border, hoping to be granted amnesty? Take MY wife for example. She came here from the Philippines LEGALLY. She had to wait like everyone else, but she also had to wait 7 years to get her son here LEGALLY. 7 years!!!! She is now a citizen with a college degree and we have an awesome family. But she also wanted to be an American Citizen and respected our values - She even serves in the Army reserves. And Yes, there is a problem with the system, but do you think it is fair to my wife and family that she had to wait to be with her family, while others just go to some remote part of the desert, jump a wooden border fence, steal American benefits, act as if they were a citizen, demand to be given rights as if they were a citizen, all the while waving their own countries flag on American soil? They do not learn the language, they do not respect American values, they are not always decent people, and they do not deserve to be American Citizens when their first act was breaking American Laws.
So yes, there are many issues, and the main point was healthcare is stupidly expensive, so we have to ask ourselves why? I gave you quite a few examples and facts as to why. I do not care about your feelings, feelings do not outweigh fact. If we want to bring the cost of healthcare down, we need to open state borders of insurance companies to promote more competition, we need to deal with the Illegal Alien problem, we need to revamp the entire immigration system, and we need to do something now! If those things are accomplished, maybe it wouldn't cost 120k a year for a drug that will help millions of people survive. Maybe a damn aspirin will not cost 1000 dollars in a hospital. Maybe a doctors visit will become affordable to even people without insurance. And one day, maybe we will never even need it because the cost will actually be affordable.
I do hope CYDY is a little more affordable in the future, and that this turns out to be a miracle drug. Even though we all have our differences, we are all trying to live the American dream, better ourselves, and hopefully learn from our pasts and not make the same mistakes over and over.
GLTUA
Obama care was a failure and violated my rights. If I did not want healthcare, that is my right not to have it. But when it became mandatory and fines were imposed, that violated my right to chose. The main problem with Obama care was that all the places you could get it pulled out of the states leaving two, or most times one, provider for the entire state. This led them to be a monopoly and could charge whatever they wanted for healthcare. Another example of how Socialism fails everytime - No competition leads to corruption, higher taxes, and pricing - I always ask this question. What good is having healthcare if you can't even afford to pay your deductible or your premium? Do you just want to say, hey everybody, I have healthcare now? That is pointless. And one good thing, yes people who couldn't get it before now have access to it. But when all the competition left the states, prices skyrocketed, and most of those people could no longer afford it. Its a damned if you do, damned if ya don't.
To people saying we should just grant amnesty to the illegals, that is like your kid going to the store, stealing something, and you saying, oh thats ok... Try not to do it again, but enjoy what you stole. It has not worked the last 8 times we have done it, what would be different about the next time? That is the definition of insanity. Doing something over and over and expecting a different result. When there are no repercussions for peoples actions, it becomes OK to do and more and more will follow - Example our southern border - Oh and by the way, I live in Arizona. I have seen planes fly over the border and drop bails of drugs on the US side where people go in and bring it to the rest of the country from there. I have seen Ranchers killed just so they can sneak over more people or use their house as a pathway to come into the country. I have seen trucks loaded up with illegals and they catch them, to find half of the people in the semi truck dead because there was no air circulation in 120 degree weather.
2nd and bigger talking point about Illegal Aliens is ask yourself this, Do you think it is fair, that someone has to wait years to become a legal citizen of the country, while others break the law and just hop the border, hoping to be granted amnesty? Take MY wife for example. She came here from the Philippines LEGALLY. She had to wait like everyone else, but she also had to wait 7 years to get her son here LEGALLY. 7 years!!!! She is now a citizen with a college degree and we have an awesome family. But she also wanted to be an American Citizen and respected our values - She even serves in the Army reserves. And Yes, there is a problem with the system, but do you think it is fair to my wife and family that she had to wait to be with her family, while others just go to some remote part of the desert, jump a wooden border fence, steal American benefits, act as if they were a citizen, demand to be given rights as if they were a citizen, all the while waving their own countries flag on American soil? They do not learn the language, they do not respect American values, they are not always decent people, and they do not deserve to be American Citizens when their first act was breaking American Laws.
So yes, there are many issues, and the main point was healthcare is stupidly expensive, so we have to ask ourselves why? I gave you quite a few examples and facts as to why. I do not care about your feelings, feelings do not outweigh fact. If we want to bring the cost of healthcare down, we need to open state borders of insurance companies to promote more competition, we need to deal with the Illegal Alien problem, we need to revamp the entire immigration system, and we need to do something now! If those things are accomplished, maybe it wouldn't cost 120k a year for a drug that will help millions of people survive. Maybe a damn aspirin will not cost 1000 dollars in a hospital. Maybe a doctors visit will become affordable to even people without insurance. And one day, maybe we will never even need it because the cost will actually be affordable.
I do hope CYDY is a little more affordable in the future, and that this turns out to be a miracle drug. Even though we all have our differences, we are all trying to live the American dream, better ourselves, and hopefully learn from our pasts and not make the same mistakes over and over.
GLTUA
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