Ok, that video is nice and all but it doesn't prov

Ok, that video is nice and all but it doesn't prove Nio is selling anything. It's like when a manufacturer debuts a prototype at SEMA. What I meant is, dig up some NIO sales records or something.

Regarding the Tesla thing, you could have at least refuted that by saying they had an agreement with panasonic before to produce batteries, although at this point there's been some things surfaced (and not all of the info people who are posting here find is being shared on this board) that would suggest that that deal either fell through or it's not in the sphere of what they're doing in China.

Anyway, all you have to do is open your eyes. I appreciate that you're not as confident about it because you're missing some of the links and pieces other members here know about. The NIO stuff comes from WeChat and some other places. ZJMY did the same thing with the long star stuff before that partnership/ownership was announced. I don't think you realize how far these guys are going to get this information, because Jinbo isn't making it readily available here.