Thanks Respert24, My anxiety over reading most of these post forced me to try everything you suggested, all at once....... I highly suggest one doesn't do that, I think I pulled something trying to do the disappearing thumb trick and edging at the same time. I think I also forgot to breathe while attempting such feats. Chewing gum and seeds while punching junk during a message (opps that says massage) now I have to clear my messenger and google history. I think I'll just go back to breathing, but thanks!