As far as phones, "Phones were with Distributors in September", folks need to remember, the phones Keer was talking about was the old test phones. Since then, White took over, and we all know Jason went to China for an extended period of time around the Thanksgiving/Christmas 2018 time frame to work on design, development, and production of what appears to be a whole new set of phones. I believe the next step would be for the Company to introduce the new set of phones with pictures/spec of which we are all expecting any day now but NLT Thursday. Therefore, it's obvious we should not be expecting any sales and/or revenue numbers at this point. Again, just getting the launch pad ready for lift-off! Go ANDI/Utopya and GLTA!