I'll take a stab at answering "some" of your quest
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Posted On: 12/21/2018 2:28:16 PM
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I'll take a stab at answering "some" of your questions.
"Now let’s go back to the RS and let’s say we consolidate until then at .25. We do a 1:20 making the stock price 5$. Why would the stock price go down after that."
It almost always does and will in this situation too unless there is strong news. And that is what I stated in my post. Without that it most certainly will drop and has a lot more room to drop after a RS.
"Why would a trader sell who bought in at .25? Why would the 3rd party who may exercise their warrants at an average price of .27 sell at 5$ at a loss? Why would anyone sell at a loss in January after tax loss season? "
You are looking at it from your own perspective. There are and will always be different reasons for people to sell....and buy. If we still don't get these promised events in January you watch and see who sells. At some point investors will stop their paper losses and move on to stocks that are performing. And will return when/if nFusz does. I believe they will come through at some point but to date we have many had missed deadlines. V3 is a big one and that is part of another missed one, the Oracle PR that "is coming folks". V3 is more than 10 weeks past the ~8 week statement our CEO made. This was not a board poster that said it, the CEO said we would have V3 out in about 8 weeks. By making those statements and then not delivering the investment community begins to have doubts in a CEO's ability to deliver promised events. I hope V3 is out and being tested with NS as we really need that to validate our product.
"Why is someone selling after the RS. If the public offering happens pre RS or after RS why do you think they will sell for a loss. I have yet to hear a logical reply. Hopefully you can shed some light on this subject. "
Seriously?? Look at the Stock prince since the RS POSSIBILITYwas announced. Announced after market on 11.14. StOck was at .44 and went to .17 days later. 60% drop. You saw that right? The damage is done but it could most definitely get worse if a RS is done without some solid news or real partnerships. Smart investors even long ones will exit and buy back cheaper.
From Motley Fool
"Reverse splits have not worked out well for many companies that have used them in the past. Sun Microsystems, for instance, did a 1-for-4 reverse stock split back in November 2007, but after just a year, the shares had fallen 85% before bouncing in the wake of Oracle's (Nasdaq: ORCL) takeover of the tech giant. Even after paying a premium to the then-prevailing share price, longtime Sun shareholders didn't come close to recouping their losses."
"AIG (NYSE:AIG) did a 1-for-20 reverse split after shares had flirted with the $1 mark for the better part of a year following the market meltdown in 2008. With the help of extensive bailouts, the company has survived, but even so, the stock remains down more than 95% from where it traded in mid-2007, after adjusting for the split."
Surprises from reverse splits
Occasionally , though, a reverse split works out well. Consider these three examples:
In mid-2003, Priceline.com (NASDAQ:BKNG) did a 1-for-6 reverse stock split, lifting its stock price from around $3.50 per share to $22, as many investors believed that the William Shatner-led Internet travel service would fade away with so many other dot-com companies. Now, 12 years later, the stock trades above $1,200 per share, giving long-term investors a 50-bagger with room to spare.
In 2000, Laboratory Corp. of America (NYSE:LH) did a 1-for-10 reverse split after having seen its stock stuck in single digits for more than five years. Within two years of the reverse split, LabCorp had not only recovered, but it had also done two separate 2-for-1 regular splits, and the stock now trades for six times its split-adjusted price immediately after the reverse split.
Corrections Corp. of America (NYSE:CXW) traded as low as $0.60 per share in 2001 before reverse-splitting 1-for-10. Since then, the private prison-services provider has seen its stock jump more than tenfold, with two regular splits helping to drive the company's total return higher.
"Also when you give your comparison of companies, did they have the following catalysts coming:
- V3
- notifiMD
- Microsoft
- Salesforce
- cloud based contract #1
- cloud based contract #2
- update on notifiEDU
- notifiLive Facebook
- notifiLive Instagram
- sound concepts increasing user base with potentially 50MM+ in revs
- SAP
- slidely
- and so on.... "
ALL coming......nothing concrete and as we know we have yet to see market acceptance so speculation on which (if any) will come to fruition.
Listen, I would not be invested with as many shares as I have (and continue to buy down here) if I didn't think the team Rory has assembled isn't a powerful one. But you are stating things as facts when they are far from it.
#1 rule in investing, don't fall in love with a stock. When there are warning signs either exit or lose it all.
https://www.stocksplithistory.com/
"Now let’s go back to the RS and let’s say we consolidate until then at .25. We do a 1:20 making the stock price 5$. Why would the stock price go down after that."
It almost always does and will in this situation too unless there is strong news. And that is what I stated in my post. Without that it most certainly will drop and has a lot more room to drop after a RS.
"Why would a trader sell who bought in at .25? Why would the 3rd party who may exercise their warrants at an average price of .27 sell at 5$ at a loss? Why would anyone sell at a loss in January after tax loss season? "
You are looking at it from your own perspective. There are and will always be different reasons for people to sell....and buy. If we still don't get these promised events in January you watch and see who sells. At some point investors will stop their paper losses and move on to stocks that are performing. And will return when/if nFusz does. I believe they will come through at some point but to date we have many had missed deadlines. V3 is a big one and that is part of another missed one, the Oracle PR that "is coming folks". V3 is more than 10 weeks past the ~8 week statement our CEO made. This was not a board poster that said it, the CEO said we would have V3 out in about 8 weeks. By making those statements and then not delivering the investment community begins to have doubts in a CEO's ability to deliver promised events. I hope V3 is out and being tested with NS as we really need that to validate our product.
"Why is someone selling after the RS. If the public offering happens pre RS or after RS why do you think they will sell for a loss. I have yet to hear a logical reply. Hopefully you can shed some light on this subject. "
Seriously?? Look at the Stock prince since the RS POSSIBILITYwas announced. Announced after market on 11.14. StOck was at .44 and went to .17 days later. 60% drop. You saw that right? The damage is done but it could most definitely get worse if a RS is done without some solid news or real partnerships. Smart investors even long ones will exit and buy back cheaper.
From Motley Fool
"Reverse splits have not worked out well for many companies that have used them in the past. Sun Microsystems, for instance, did a 1-for-4 reverse stock split back in November 2007, but after just a year, the shares had fallen 85% before bouncing in the wake of Oracle's (Nasdaq: ORCL) takeover of the tech giant. Even after paying a premium to the then-prevailing share price, longtime Sun shareholders didn't come close to recouping their losses."
"AIG (NYSE:AIG) did a 1-for-20 reverse split after shares had flirted with the $1 mark for the better part of a year following the market meltdown in 2008. With the help of extensive bailouts, the company has survived, but even so, the stock remains down more than 95% from where it traded in mid-2007, after adjusting for the split."
Surprises from reverse splits
Occasionally , though, a reverse split works out well. Consider these three examples:
In mid-2003, Priceline.com (NASDAQ:BKNG) did a 1-for-6 reverse stock split, lifting its stock price from around $3.50 per share to $22, as many investors believed that the William Shatner-led Internet travel service would fade away with so many other dot-com companies. Now, 12 years later, the stock trades above $1,200 per share, giving long-term investors a 50-bagger with room to spare.
In 2000, Laboratory Corp. of America (NYSE:LH) did a 1-for-10 reverse split after having seen its stock stuck in single digits for more than five years. Within two years of the reverse split, LabCorp had not only recovered, but it had also done two separate 2-for-1 regular splits, and the stock now trades for six times its split-adjusted price immediately after the reverse split.
Corrections Corp. of America (NYSE:CXW) traded as low as $0.60 per share in 2001 before reverse-splitting 1-for-10. Since then, the private prison-services provider has seen its stock jump more than tenfold, with two regular splits helping to drive the company's total return higher.
"Also when you give your comparison of companies, did they have the following catalysts coming:
- V3
- notifiMD
- Microsoft
- Salesforce
- cloud based contract #1
- cloud based contract #2
- update on notifiEDU
- notifiLive Facebook
- notifiLive Instagram
- sound concepts increasing user base with potentially 50MM+ in revs
- SAP
- slidely
- and so on.... "
ALL coming......nothing concrete and as we know we have yet to see market acceptance so speculation on which (if any) will come to fruition.
Listen, I would not be invested with as many shares as I have (and continue to buy down here) if I didn't think the team Rory has assembled isn't a powerful one. But you are stating things as facts when they are far from it.
#1 rule in investing, don't fall in love with a stock. When there are warning signs either exit or lose it all.
https://www.stocksplithistory.com/
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