Who is kidding who , there has been hype 25 years ago and millions of investors dollars Gone into what ? A beautiful machine shop and more hype ? Paying salaries , As has been the story for 25 years ,where are the actual sales that drive and actual asset valuation ? This Does Not Exist ! But Hype does . It is time for the investors to take a goood look at who is actually accruing assets and for free , who owns the company ? Certainly not you . Take a good look at the company asset structure . Who owns what ? You may be lucky if you invest anything ,to actually get your money back except by sear luck , as has been the case with ( every one) except GC and co .Check out the 4s.guaranteeing GC 80% ownership of what , where are the sales to drive asset value ? Totally sucks for investers / stuges ?, IMO .