Agreed Ben, We longs are a conservative group. I think we keep the liberal BS of opinion arguing to a minimum. Sometimes it just BS to keep people talking. But being from NY I do love a good argument. I grew up on Long Island, Dad was on NYPD. As far as our investment here goes, I was hoping to hear it from someone who knows how to say it. To reinforce or give a different argument to prove me wrong or give me something more to think about an my next moves with BLTA. Delta said all there needs to be said. Its not a debate and none of us presented it that way, its crunching the numbers and presenting it appropriately; Intelligent discussion. Every penny board you go to, they all have they same BS to say $1.00-$1.50 by the end of the year.... most always complete and utter BS. I don't think that is the case here. What came of Delta's, the Lt's comments for me, and I assume a few others is I had not factored in the benefits being paid by our competitors in my numbers, only debt. I have felt we are undervalued without that in mind. Of course we have to get certified for any of it to be meaningful. Appreciate the feed back too Ben.