i still say VFIN is bluffing to an existent....... when ever you see him move up one tick after a small slap you know he is very weak at that time ....... again on monday i watched him sit at .0101 and got slapped by a small order under 100k ...... he moved right to .0102 so i slapped him for 60k then he jumped to .0103 some one followed my lead right after that and before you knew it he was back at .0115 ...... he tries to get plp to dump for him at this point he just uses his name as a scare tactic and tries to keep the momentum down