Dave, remember who you are pointing finger at. Re
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Reminds me of an event I witnessed one day " I was listening to two engineers discuss a hole (excavation) was in the wrong place the engineers decide the hole needed to be moved. I witnessed them give direction to this laborer to move the hole. The laborer calmly stated to stupid educated pricks, you don't move a hole you dig another one. I still laugh about it till this day.
Maybe this will help with clarity.