For starters we can only figure imo that before the ask dropped today the ask was at 101 mill.. If the mm's are making a market and the buys today were 33 mill.. Subtract the 33 from 101 mill And we get 68 mill....so I would think we need another minimum of 68 mill. In buys to get out of no bid but we must also consider that there may be more hidden shares than the 101 mill The mm's were showing so 68 mill is the best case scenario imo. I believe news wise everyone is waiting to see himr's reduction offer that avoids a r/s they mentioned with greater upside potential per share as they stated in their blog. If we get news and updates on that and it benefits shareholders I believe that will be the catalyst we need to move up. We are thin past .0002/.0003 imo so we get there we could see a big push forward from there on out. Jmot