Well, everyone has worked very hard looking under rocks for Information that could be used to varify what we all hope is true . For me I find that we have not yet found that piece of information that cleraly says yes its DUTV. We have some sharp folks here putting hard effort here. Gary MC has kept this a big secret while he has been building his company , it is amazing if true. He should be in the spy sector of tech. He will sneak up on you. He put out a PR on TORQ year later BAm its true. If we follow Gary and his time management going forward no problem. Working , sorry my thoughts jumbled th is Am.