That was what I said....by "slower but realistic progress" I was comparing to Nader's pie in the sky stuff from past calls, didn't mean NO progress as you seem to have taken it. Maybe I should have specified "as opposed to past BS"? I'm looking for progress too, and saying that *real* progress, although it may be slower than Nader, shouldn't elicit a drop. Now if it's an empty update, yes, I agree, a drop is inevitable.