Sometimes you don't need facts to support ones belief. If you compare what Joe/GNBT is doing now compared to what they used to do says a whole lot. For instance, they were good about filing financials on time. Now, they haven't filed the last set and are way over due. As a result, most brokerages will no longer let you buy GNBT. We don't have proof of the reasoning behind not filing, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand something is very bad wrong. Departing company officials/lawyers may not tell the average shareholders why they left on record, but does anyone believe they would depart if we honestly had a "complete vaccine" on the horizon or we were on the verge of an IPO/Up-list? Heck no, they want to see the fruits of their labor. I could go on & on with more examples but what's the point. Facing the reality of the situation rather than sugar coating Joe's silence isn't helping anyone. Like I said, this board isn't here to stroke everyone's ego to make them feel good about their investment, it's here to help folks evaluate the stock with the reality of the situation on hand. I'm not saying this won't eventually pan out, but this is the OTC, so don't be surprised if it doesn't. Anyways, GLTA!