Yes i do remember that conversation on one of the conference calls....Doc is all in with this....I have criticized him on this open forum, and later apologized to him because i singled him out (never accepted my apology).....but many of us sometimes get frustrated and we say comments that can be perceived as negative, and when Joe sees those, he fumes....he asks: how can an investor say negatives about his/her own investment, for all to see.....and maybe react by selling.....