IMO, we're at least 2 years away from any significant business results, and obviously the jury is out (no pun intended) on how significant those will be. DECN may get a legal settlement from J&J in the meantime-in the interview Berman says mid to high 8 figures. We'll never know the amount if it's like the last settlement from J&J. Good luck to all invested here-long term hold at best.