We have no way of knowing what Aspire has done over the years. They could have sold some shares every time they bought some. My point is, you say they sell every share when they get it. I say, we don't know that they do that.

You're saying they hold zero shares. I say they are holding some shares and we don't know how many. You say they sell every share when they get them. I say we don't know what they're doing. No one does except them.