I guess it does come down to "intent". If machine #3 was designed to show clients the capability of the process, then I'd say it was a success. If it was designed to be replicated and sold as is, I'd say it was over engineered. Too large and too complex to run consistently. It seems to me the machines will need to be sized and tweaked to meet individual client needs. If my assumption is correct, then why not size and tweak a machine for Crayola, MC, or one to reclaim HTF? That's what I see as multiple paths. Is that where OBG comes in to play? We just don't know what their real intent is, I guess. Or, at least, I don't.