Well said. I'm familiar with Ihub's history and the jailed original owner or similar. They have a clever setup but in my opinion and as time goes on, the sites effectiveness on shorting will diminish. It's been too long already. Clever traders can make money using the site but it's a relatively small group of hedge fund manipulators through free speech opinions that have a tendency to control the play action. The manipulators whether pumpers or bashers, use psychology 101 to get to the newbies and veterans and the general greed of mom and pop traders. I was one of those newbies at one time.