Posted On: 10/02/2016 11:10:22 AM
Post# of 43066
As I've said before, I'm here more out of morbid curiosity and I'll admit it's probably a waste of time. I feel that PTOI is an ongoing crime in progress and it's hard for me to look away.
I'll answer any questions and I appreciate that you've done the same in the past. You were the only one who ever even made an attempt at looking at the math of scrap prices vs fuel prices. We're still of a difference of opinion because you believe PTOI can skim the market for cheaper scrap plastic and I don't...but I give you kudos for working through it.
As far as people posting negative comments to drive the price down, certainly people try to move stocks by influencing people through spam, message boards or other means...but that's a short-term scam and almost predominantly done by pumping stocks for upward movement, not bashing them for downward movement. The spam campaigns I've seen typically last a few days trying to recruit people to buy the stock and then the scammers undoubtedly quickly sell. Trying to run a stock promotion or bashing campaign for seven and a half years while hoping nobody notices the fundamentals isn't rational.
I do see your point that a message board would provide an audience of shareholders for target marketing a theoretical 'bashing campaign'...but again, seven years driving the stock down 99.4% while hoping the company doesn't produce results and still wanting to capture a portion of that remaining 0.6%?? It doesn't make sense...especially in light of the high borrowing costs.
"Nobody that I've interacted with feels that PTOI is blameless for its current state - but many of us feel that the public side of the company has been manipulted from the start - and it's been done in a system that is rigged against the start up."
I can almost guarantee that if Mr. Heddle showed positive results from testing the processor, all of this talk about manipulators would disappear. Whomever these supposed manipulators are, nobody wants to be short a valuable company at a deeply discounted price.
The math not adding up on being able to profitably turn inherently valuable scrap plastic into diesel notwithstanding, I'm certain I know the exact reason why Mr. Heddle is unwilling to tell investors what the technology can achieve--it's better to keep silent and be thought by some that the technology is worthless than tell people that it's worthless. If I believed that PTOI's version of pyrolsyis was worthwhile, I would be wildly confused as to why Mr. Heddle doesn't want anyone to know how well the process works. Just disclosing positive results would make your stock immediately skyrocket.
I'll answer any questions and I appreciate that you've done the same in the past. You were the only one who ever even made an attempt at looking at the math of scrap prices vs fuel prices. We're still of a difference of opinion because you believe PTOI can skim the market for cheaper scrap plastic and I don't...but I give you kudos for working through it.
As far as people posting negative comments to drive the price down, certainly people try to move stocks by influencing people through spam, message boards or other means...but that's a short-term scam and almost predominantly done by pumping stocks for upward movement, not bashing them for downward movement. The spam campaigns I've seen typically last a few days trying to recruit people to buy the stock and then the scammers undoubtedly quickly sell. Trying to run a stock promotion or bashing campaign for seven and a half years while hoping nobody notices the fundamentals isn't rational.
I do see your point that a message board would provide an audience of shareholders for target marketing a theoretical 'bashing campaign'...but again, seven years driving the stock down 99.4% while hoping the company doesn't produce results and still wanting to capture a portion of that remaining 0.6%?? It doesn't make sense...especially in light of the high borrowing costs.
"Nobody that I've interacted with feels that PTOI is blameless for its current state - but many of us feel that the public side of the company has been manipulted from the start - and it's been done in a system that is rigged against the start up."
I can almost guarantee that if Mr. Heddle showed positive results from testing the processor, all of this talk about manipulators would disappear. Whomever these supposed manipulators are, nobody wants to be short a valuable company at a deeply discounted price.
The math not adding up on being able to profitably turn inherently valuable scrap plastic into diesel notwithstanding, I'm certain I know the exact reason why Mr. Heddle is unwilling to tell investors what the technology can achieve--it's better to keep silent and be thought by some that the technology is worthless than tell people that it's worthless. If I believed that PTOI's version of pyrolsyis was worthwhile, I would be wildly confused as to why Mr. Heddle doesn't want anyone to know how well the process works. Just disclosing positive results would make your stock immediately skyrocket.
(0)
(0)
Yes, I understand your penny stock also is the real deal, created with the inventiveness of Edison and destined to be the next Microsoft. Yes, I understand that the delays are also only because your company is making their product and/or technology even more revolutionary.
