You can't win with him since he refuses to acknowledge the simple logical argument that he just shouldn't be fixated on the second financial report since product hit the shelves. Most investors wouldn't do that with a start up that they're looking at as a long term prospect. Not a pink sheet stock. The kind of investor he's referring to all of the time won't even invest in pinks due to lack of audited proof that they aren't going under. Yet he's here analyzing and bashing a stock "he is going to walk away from til later". GET WALKING THEN, WE'RE WAITING! Only if the company was in dire straights would it make any sense, and he bought in when the PPS was at about .007 with no sales or, especially, quarterlies containing sales. Now just a stones through from there and it's a bad company. Ridiculous. Just Ridiculous. I haven't seen argument spelled out by him that sells it either, just his reiterating that he's disappointed and it doesn't look good. So move on and spend your effort where you can make big bucks, or is that what's going on here? Trying to help to reset the PPS to make another nice payday with hardly any capital investment? HAAAA HAAAAA! He needs to move on but he just can't cause he loves to argue and he has to be right. Ego? Phony? Not sure, but IRRITATING without a doubt.