Yeah, but crawford, your education would tell you not to invest in a penny stock. You wouldnt be able to advise your clients into something like this. The reason we are all investing in these and othwr pennies is the hope of a longshot coming through. If they were above board in everything, they wouldnt be on the OTC, they would be with a large financial institution taking them IPO on the NASDAQ. Let's all remember where we are. I think they will come through. If they dont, well then, i will have only lost what i was comfortable in losing. I wont be happy, but i wont be devastated. Hang in there crawford, its not over till its over.