They are both crooks plain and simple....i think its a desperate trip to Israel from our CEO who is sweating for any kind of funding. If we do not see a grant in near future what a waste of travel expenses. This is a joke the PPS is headed to the .06s fast and we hear nothing (because there is nothing) The longer we linger around with no partners and continued dilution the higher the probability even with a promising pipeline Amarantus may self implode IMO. Funding trials, launching a diagnostic (i guess) with nothing but dilution is a joke.