Viper1, what I'm saying is Alana Husby absolutely knows all about HIMR. But she is not happy we are in her territory and will sound like PLUTO if you try to get information out of her. Other shareholders have been in contact with her besides me and can verify her feelings towards us. Her e-mail and phone number are on her web site, so give it a try. BTW, I think Ardan International is on Lake Gutan in Panama.