Do you really think anyone on this message board has "solid helpful input". All of us who have been watching this for the past six months know the same thing. That it is a train wreck. We are just lowly stock investors, who are the last in line to collect anything in case of a bankruptcy. We have very little to no recourse when this thing hits .0001. Management obviously does not care about us at all. Only placating us with BS and more dangling carrots.