Time frame is a couple of weeks at least as far as

Time frame is a couple of weeks at least as far as I can tell. With VNDM on ASK they are here to shake out the weak hands. I've been through this many times with those guys. They are not here for the long term, they are here for a couple of weeks of loading and then to sell into volume on the rally.

You never know, they could move off ask early next week ahead of Labor Day weekend and try jump start a rally and sell into volume. However, this is about to be the deadest time of the year between now and Thanksgiving and the Christmas and Passover holidays.