Very true Guts you are so solid. A wise man once said that for a short while a companies PPS is NOT directly correlated to the success (revenues) of a company but after a while a companies PPS is directly correlated to a company's success (revenues). I see that statement as exactly what Celts has been talking about. Say what you will do what you do but Q4 as the start and then 2014 the revs will do the talking and all this BS is over!