IMO, admins and some trash mods are one and the same in some cases. LieHub is clearly a front for offshore hedge funds that short the OTCs by any means available, including full on bash campaigns of legitimate companies, at our expense. And forget not the clever buying groups running their little private P&D's and wash trading schemes. I'm learning the hard way who to follow and who to steer clear of... and there are still no free lunches. Just my opinion, FWIW. $HLNT