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Lets talk about the codes.  I do think there is a

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Posted On: 07/18/2012 5:56:02 AM
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Posted By: Slingwing
Re: KDEUCE #1326

Lets talk about the codes.   I do think there is a system that is used to alert other MM’s on what is happening.   Bids higher than asks, paints of odd and small sizes.   The more you watch the markets the more you become aware off the existence of a code system.   Strange things happen when you are watching the L2.   I have seen price drops when the bid was higher than the actual selling price and price jumps when the ask is lower.   The 911 paints, could that be a signal for news and they need shares?   I don’t know but they do show up in pairs.   This is an observation we need to start documenting.   This could lead to a decoder ring if all heads were put together.   There are many X11 paints and the odd 25,50 and 100’s.   Problem is you don’t know which MM makes the paints.


Here is one thing that is a definite known.   We are betting against the MM’s.   They hold most of the cards and we rarely beat them.   They are going to make their money first and then give us the scraps.   The only time we can beat them is when the volume comes in and trades escalate.   That takes the control away from them.   They still mask trades while all this is going on so you can never be sure of what is behind door #2.


Now who are the market makers?   Simple.   The same guys you think of as your broker.   Here is a list of current market makers and their trades yesterday.   If you go to OTC markets and look them up you can pinpoint just what securities they are actually trading by clicking on the market makers name.


















































































































































Market Maker



MPID



$ Volume



Share Vol



Trades



Knight Equity Markets, LP



NITE



35,190,647



827,962,658



8425



E*Trade Capital Markets, LLC IMM



ETRF



15,532,728



936,251,406



5033



Archipelago Trading Services Inc.



ARCA



50,475,781



8,926,688



4612



UBS Securities, LLC



UBSS



10,952,766



552,473,552



3995



Automated Trading Desk Fincl Svcs



ATDF



8,541,417



282,055,827



3452



Canaccord Genuity Securities Llc



CSTI



9,374,637



99,970,397



2699



Jane Street Markets, LLC



JANE



43,355,428



2,919,688



2237



Intl Trading, Inc.



INTL



12,973,447



1,819,704



1195



Rodman & Renshaw, LLC



HDSN



1,017,476



24,831,862



949



Vandham Securities Corp.



VNDM



3,371,359



297,677,870



946



Maxim Group LLC



MAXM



10,439,509



172,654,082



846



Pershing Trading Company



PERT



2,852,790



20,369,481



845



The Vertical Group Inc.



VERT



1,965,733



70,650,919



774



Cantor Fitzgerald & Co.



CANT



3,856,649



237,525,202



696



vFinance Investments



VFIN



1,091,710



170,737,637



668



Ascendiant Capital Markets, LLC



ASCM



1,101,865



11,052,132



554



Citadel Securities LLC



CDRG



1,532,534



22,457,088



433



BTIG LLC



BTIG



4,924,613



8,041,803



425



Merrill Lynch, Pierce, FS



MLCO



12,680,363



558,725



387



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