Agreed! There are just too many bashers. The 13d group must be shelling out a lot of money, for this much bashing. However, Evil Rabbit, HHIGambler, Misiu, C-20, Daemon, CTMedic, and a handful of others, work to keep them from totally controlling the narrative. If you look around the different boards, it looks like their negative posts are having an effect. All we can do, is wade out into the cesspool and try to clean it up a little bit. Personally, I think that if we can keep punching holes, in their narrative, the group gets nervous and starts jumping in. At that point, they make mistakes. Give them enough rope and they might hang themselves. Beaty seems to be a weak link. The more we can get him to speak, the more he exposes them. Although, Patterson and Yo, also, have short tempers. The group, as a whole, are pretty full of themselves. It is a weakness. If you have an opportunity, work on that.