Report of another critical patient saved by Leronlimab at UCLA hospital
Dave Asprey is the host of a podcast called Bulletproof Radio. He interviewed Bill Moses whose Flying Embers lab makes botanical brews (alcohol). Bill had a critical case of Covid and was saved by Leronlimab. I assume it was Dr. Yang but he did not mention the doctor's name. I do not know how long ago he was in the hospital. You can listen to the interview by scrolling down to the middle of the screen at the link below.
https://daveasprey.com/flying-embers-843/
Does anyone know how many patients Dr. Yang saved with Leronlimab? For those not interested in "botanical brews", you can start at 36:15. There is a transcript with the podcast so I pasted below the parts about Leronlimab.
Dave Asprey:
What happened, though, because you got COVID? You got really sick. Tell me about your experience with COVID. This is a real thing. People don't talk about this as much as they should.
Bill Moses:
I didn't grok how impactful COVID could be, I guess, early on. I was taking 10,000 IUs of vitamin D, zinc. I was doing everything, C, astaxanthin. I was healthy. I'm healthy. I'm vibrant. I've got my hyperbaric
chamber. I've got my cryo chamber. I'm doing everything you do. We have a manufacturing facility. We ferment and make our own stuff. We've got a lot of people where we're in mass, but we're essential.
We're essential, so we were able to go to work and work, which was great.
It was one of the great things about being in the food business was we didn't have to be cloistered up in the home, and actually like we're not. So I was part of the community at work and we had someone came in and got it. And several of us got it at the same time. I just doubled down on everything. I waited and got progressively... I started taking ivermectin and was hammering that. Nine, eight days into it, I was literally unable to breathe.
I had my oxygen machine because I pulled it out of my hyperbaric and I'm like... At night I have oxygen in and I'm like, "I don't need to go. I don't need anything." Actually, I was one of those guys that was part of this cohort. There is a cohort of us out there that actually have cytokine storms, and I had a cytokine storm on one of my lungs, where I actually couldn't breathe. I went into UCLA and I was there almost three weeks. After time was going on, the oxygen requirement kept going higher and higher and higher. They
came in, they said, "Do you have a DNR? We're going to have to take you in and intubate you. We can't get any more oxygen in you." At that given time, I was like, "Oh wow, like this is real." So I call my wife, I call my kids. I say goodbye. I literally say goodbye. I do everything I can to... And I realized that there was no more high flow that I could get. I was at the limit.
Just at that time, the head of infectious disease at UCLA comes walking by and comes into my room and says, "Look, we need to probably find an experimental for your treatment." And I was like, "Okay, what?" He told me what he thinks he should give me. He goes, "We've had some success here. I have to call the FDA to get compassionate use for it, because it's not FDA approved." It's still not.
Dave Asprey:
Even though he's a doctor who has a license to do whatever the F he wants, and the FDA is getting in the
way?
Bill Moses:
The FDA will not allow doctors to give anything other than what is approved or what is currently part of their clinicals.
Dave Asprey:
That's an abuse of authority, as a doctor, as a [crosstalk 00:39:30]-
Anyway, so he had to go get special permission. Well, he got it and he came in that night and put two shots of this stuff in me, Leronlimab and
Dave Asprey:
Yeah. [inaudible 00:39:40]-
Bill Moses:
Leronlimab.
Dave Asprey:
Okay.
Bill Moses:
CytoDyn is what is... He had a hunch. He saw it work on several other, and a week later, I was out of the hospital.
Dave Asprey:
That stuff is a mass cell treatment.
Bill Moses:
Yeah, that's right. Yeah. There's some interesting applications on it. It worked for me and I'm thankful for it.
Dave Asprey:
Well, you had a good doctor who was willing to say, "Hmm, I don't know how to treat this virus, but I know how to treat inflammation. And that's what I've been trained to do for years. I'm head of infectious diseases." This is the only pandemic ever where they've forbidden doctors from doing their
work.
Bill Moses:
Well, I mean, I think there's really that the treatments are governed. Hopefully, there's going to be more and more treatments for this, because I think there's a lot of us that'll end up getting it and great treatments are going to help us. So I'm all about treatment, Dave. All about
Dave Asprey:
Treatment is a good thing. It's interesting, the cytokine storm. We know the cytokine that's most common with this is called IL-6. I'm guessing you had high levels of IL-6, right?
Bill Moses:
Yes. Yes.
Dave Asprey:
Did you see the post I wrote in the first two months of pandemic about how to stop IL-6?
Bill Moses:
No, I didn't see it.
Dave Asprey:
No, you didn't because it got taken down.
Bill Moses:
There you go. There you go. Yeah.
Dave Asprey:
Interesting how that works. But there's a bunch of herbals with very potent IL-6-suppressing properties. I know about that because toxic mold people like me who have had mold measures, if we have the genetics for that, we tend to have relatively high IL-6. So I know how to suppress it, and it's not even that hard with botanicals. But apparently talking about that isn't okay. So I didn't. But it's one of those things where I think that when people are using botanicals regularly, that help to regulate inflammation, even if they're drinking, even if they're eating pizza and cheesecake, which is probably not a great idea. Perhaps we can keep a healthy enough balance that we're less likely to get as sick as you did. And like you said, you're in that cohort. It's probably a genetic thing. And it could be an environmental thing where your mass cells were triggered to be more sensitive than others.
But I'm happy you made it. I'm happy you share the story because people say, "Oh, it's not real." Actually, no, there is something going around. It's real. People say, "Oh, I'm invulnerable because I..."
Insert name of health practice. No. You're just more resilient. And there you go. You're sitting here in front of us. You had some resilience and you had good care. Who would have thought? I'm happy you made it.
Bill Moses:
Yeah. Thanks so much. Yeah.
Dave Asprey:
Thanks for sharing your story because there's so much polarization there.
Dave Asprey is the host of a podcast called Bulletproof Radio. He interviewed Bill Moses whose Flying Embers lab makes botanical brews (alcohol). Bill had a critical case of Covid and was saved by Leronlimab. I assume it was Dr. Yang but he did not mention the doctor's name. I do not know how long ago he was in the hospital. You can listen to the interview by scrolling down to the middle of the screen at the link below.
https://daveasprey.com/flying-embers-843/
Does anyone know how many patients Dr. Yang saved with Leronlimab? For those not interested in "botanical brews", you can start at 36:15. There is a transcript with the podcast so I pasted below the parts about Leronlimab.
Dave Asprey:
What happened, though, because you got COVID? You got really sick. Tell me about your experience with COVID. This is a real thing. People don't talk about this as much as they should.
Bill Moses:
I didn't grok how impactful COVID could be, I guess, early on. I was taking 10,000 IUs of vitamin D, zinc. I was doing everything, C, astaxanthin. I was healthy. I'm healthy. I'm vibrant. I've got my hyperbaric
chamber. I've got my cryo chamber. I'm doing everything you do. We have a manufacturing facility. We ferment and make our own stuff. We've got a lot of people where we're in mass, but we're essential.
We're essential, so we were able to go to work and work, which was great.
It was one of the great things about being in the food business was we didn't have to be cloistered up in the home, and actually like we're not. So I was part of the community at work and we had someone came in and got it. And several of us got it at the same time. I just doubled down on everything. I waited and got progressively... I started taking ivermectin and was hammering that. Nine, eight days into it, I was literally unable to breathe.
I had my oxygen machine because I pulled it out of my hyperbaric and I'm like... At night I have oxygen in and I'm like, "I don't need to go. I don't need anything." Actually, I was one of those guys that was part of this cohort. There is a cohort of us out there that actually have cytokine storms, and I had a cytokine storm on one of my lungs, where I actually couldn't breathe. I went into UCLA and I was there almost three weeks. After time was going on, the oxygen requirement kept going higher and higher and higher. They
came in, they said, "Do you have a DNR? We're going to have to take you in and intubate you. We can't get any more oxygen in you." At that given time, I was like, "Oh wow, like this is real." So I call my wife, I call my kids. I say goodbye. I literally say goodbye. I do everything I can to... And I realized that there was no more high flow that I could get. I was at the limit.
Just at that time, the head of infectious disease at UCLA comes walking by and comes into my room and says, "Look, we need to probably find an experimental for your treatment." And I was like, "Okay, what?" He told me what he thinks he should give me. He goes, "We've had some success here. I have to call the FDA to get compassionate use for it, because it's not FDA approved." It's still not.
Dave Asprey:
Even though he's a doctor who has a license to do whatever the F he wants, and the FDA is getting in the
way?
Bill Moses:
The FDA will not allow doctors to give anything other than what is approved or what is currently part of their clinicals.
Dave Asprey:
That's an abuse of authority, as a doctor, as a [crosstalk 00:39:30]-
Anyway, so he had to go get special permission. Well, he got it and he came in that night and put two shots of this stuff in me, Leronlimab and
Dave Asprey:
Yeah. [inaudible 00:39:40]-
Bill Moses:
Leronlimab.
Dave Asprey:
Okay.
Bill Moses:
CytoDyn is what is... He had a hunch. He saw it work on several other, and a week later, I was out of the hospital.
Dave Asprey:
That stuff is a mass cell treatment.
Bill Moses:
Yeah, that's right. Yeah. There's some interesting applications on it. It worked for me and I'm thankful for it.
Dave Asprey:
Well, you had a good doctor who was willing to say, "Hmm, I don't know how to treat this virus, but I know how to treat inflammation. And that's what I've been trained to do for years. I'm head of infectious diseases." This is the only pandemic ever where they've forbidden doctors from doing their
work.
Bill Moses:
Well, I mean, I think there's really that the treatments are governed. Hopefully, there's going to be more and more treatments for this, because I think there's a lot of us that'll end up getting it and great treatments are going to help us. So I'm all about treatment, Dave. All about
Dave Asprey:
Treatment is a good thing. It's interesting, the cytokine storm. We know the cytokine that's most common with this is called IL-6. I'm guessing you had high levels of IL-6, right?
Bill Moses:
Yes. Yes.
Dave Asprey:
Did you see the post I wrote in the first two months of pandemic about how to stop IL-6?
Bill Moses:
No, I didn't see it.
Dave Asprey:
No, you didn't because it got taken down.
Bill Moses:
There you go. There you go. Yeah.
Dave Asprey:
Interesting how that works. But there's a bunch of herbals with very potent IL-6-suppressing properties. I know about that because toxic mold people like me who have had mold measures, if we have the genetics for that, we tend to have relatively high IL-6. So I know how to suppress it, and it's not even that hard with botanicals. But apparently talking about that isn't okay. So I didn't. But it's one of those things where I think that when people are using botanicals regularly, that help to regulate inflammation, even if they're drinking, even if they're eating pizza and cheesecake, which is probably not a great idea. Perhaps we can keep a healthy enough balance that we're less likely to get as sick as you did. And like you said, you're in that cohort. It's probably a genetic thing. And it could be an environmental thing where your mass cells were triggered to be more sensitive than others.
But I'm happy you made it. I'm happy you share the story because people say, "Oh, it's not real." Actually, no, there is something going around. It's real. People say, "Oh, I'm invulnerable because I..."
Insert name of health practice. No. You're just more resilient. And there you go. You're sitting here in front of us. You had some resilience and you had good care. Who would have thought? I'm happy you made it.
Bill Moses:
Yeah. Thanks so much. Yeah.
Dave Asprey:
Thanks for sharing your story because there's so much polarization there.
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