It's a dud Erick, just like everything else. Popped to 20 cents twice last year...fool me once fool me twice it's on me but not a third time...will sell my position on the next pop...if there ever is one. At least I'll make a little bit but it won't be a grand slam like we've all been hoping for. MV on the other board insinuated that those pops may have been orchestrated for management and cronies to make some cash but that's not possible with the SEC rules in place for management. And I believe the pipe investors have restricted shares and are under SEC rules there as well. But I have to ask myself why is it not a dam things has worked out for this company other than the flat pack. Thought N-Assay would have produced something by now. It's been a few years, where's the GBS test kits? At least they have a patent now and hopefully that will lead to something.