Until I heard the recording, I was of the opinion

Until I heard the recording, I was of the opinion that this was yet another CC with not much info. After hearing the recording it was very clear that they have made great progress and are on the cusp of coming out with something very big. I repeat what I said earlier - Joe and his team have put genuine effort in trying to get this to right place. I am sure they will succeed!! And China is putting real money behind this science as they know there is something very good in there.

Holding my breath for new few days!