'An anguished question from a Trump supporter: "Wh
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'An anguished question from a Trump supporter: "Why do liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?"
On this Electoral College day...I like to reflect on 'the serious answer'...
The serious answer: Here’s what we really think about Trump supporters - the rich, the poor, the malignant and the innocently well-meaning, the ones who think and the ones who don't...
That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on scamming poor people, you thought "Fine." That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, "Okay." That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, "No problem."
That when he made up stories about seeing muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, "Not an issue." That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn't care, you chirped, "He sure knows me."
That when you heard him illustrate his own character by telling that cute story about the elderly guest bleeding on the floor at his country club, the story about how he turned his back and how it was all an imposition on him, you said, "That's cool!"
That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw. That when you heard him brag that he doesn't read books, you said, "Well, who has time?"
That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn't commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, "That makes sense."
That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, "Yes!"
That when you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man's coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, "What a great guy!" That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, "Thumbs up!"
That you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his electoral win, you said, "That's the way I want my President to be."
That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they're supposed to be regulating and you have said, "What a genius!"
That you have heard him continue to profit from his businesses, in part by leveraging his position as President, to the point of overcharging the Secret Service for space in the properties he owns, and you have said, "That's smart!"
That you have heard him say that it was difficult to help Puerto Rico because it was the middle of water and you have said, "That makes sense." That you have seen him start fights with every country from Canada to New Zealand while praising Russia and quote, "falling in love" with the dictator of North Korea, and you have said, "That's statesmanship!"
That Trump separated children from their families and put them in cages, managed to lose track of 1500 kids. has opened a tent city incarceration camp in the desert in Texas - he explains that they’re just “animals” - and you say, “well, ok then.”
That you have witnessed all the thousand and one other manifestations of corruption and low moral character and outright animalistic rudeness and contempt for you, the working American voter, and you still show up grinning and wearing your MAGA hats and threatening to beat up anybody who says otherwise.
What you don't get, Trump supporters in 2019, is that succumbing to frustration and thinking of you as stupid may be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also...hear me...charitable.
Because if you're NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are less flattering.'
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214709776
16. My thoughts exactly
Trump wasn't exactly in hiding prior to 2015. He's always had a colossal ego, has always been a jerk, and has always been an all-around nasty human being. He literally has no redeeming qualities, and he's not really even a Republican, and certainly not a conservative.
I will never, as long as I live, understand his "appeal." Why is it so clear to us what kind of an asshole he is, but it's not to them? One of the great mysteries!
I've been around all types of Christians in my life - from fundamentalist Bible-thumpers to mainline Protestants to prosperity gospel believers, and to think that someone like Trump could fool many of them is unbelievable to me. Or perhaps he didn't fool them at all.
I do know several people who would seem to be the type who would be drawn to him, but they can't stand him. They are as baffled as I am by his appeal.
21. I don't think they're stupid.
Well, some are not too bright, but for the most part, many are actually people who want an excuse to behave badly and are being disingenuous (denying climate change, election results, making excuses for violating ethics and norms, etc) because they don't want people to know just how morally bankrupt they have chosen to become. This is actually what "evil" is. People who take pleasure in harming other people and destroying what other people find beautiful is evil.
On this Electoral College day...I like to reflect on 'the serious answer'...
The serious answer: Here’s what we really think about Trump supporters - the rich, the poor, the malignant and the innocently well-meaning, the ones who think and the ones who don't...
That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on scamming poor people, you thought "Fine." That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, "Okay." That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, "No problem."
That when he made up stories about seeing muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, "Not an issue." That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn't care, you chirped, "He sure knows me."
That when you heard him illustrate his own character by telling that cute story about the elderly guest bleeding on the floor at his country club, the story about how he turned his back and how it was all an imposition on him, you said, "That's cool!"
That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw. That when you heard him brag that he doesn't read books, you said, "Well, who has time?"
That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn't commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, "That makes sense."
That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, "Yes!"
That when you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man's coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, "What a great guy!" That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, "Thumbs up!"
That you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his electoral win, you said, "That's the way I want my President to be."
That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they're supposed to be regulating and you have said, "What a genius!"
That you have heard him continue to profit from his businesses, in part by leveraging his position as President, to the point of overcharging the Secret Service for space in the properties he owns, and you have said, "That's smart!"
That you have heard him say that it was difficult to help Puerto Rico because it was the middle of water and you have said, "That makes sense." That you have seen him start fights with every country from Canada to New Zealand while praising Russia and quote, "falling in love" with the dictator of North Korea, and you have said, "That's statesmanship!"
That Trump separated children from their families and put them in cages, managed to lose track of 1500 kids. has opened a tent city incarceration camp in the desert in Texas - he explains that they’re just “animals” - and you say, “well, ok then.”
That you have witnessed all the thousand and one other manifestations of corruption and low moral character and outright animalistic rudeness and contempt for you, the working American voter, and you still show up grinning and wearing your MAGA hats and threatening to beat up anybody who says otherwise.
What you don't get, Trump supporters in 2019, is that succumbing to frustration and thinking of you as stupid may be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also...hear me...charitable.
Because if you're NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are less flattering.'
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214709776
16. My thoughts exactly
Trump wasn't exactly in hiding prior to 2015. He's always had a colossal ego, has always been a jerk, and has always been an all-around nasty human being. He literally has no redeeming qualities, and he's not really even a Republican, and certainly not a conservative.
I will never, as long as I live, understand his "appeal." Why is it so clear to us what kind of an asshole he is, but it's not to them? One of the great mysteries!
I've been around all types of Christians in my life - from fundamentalist Bible-thumpers to mainline Protestants to prosperity gospel believers, and to think that someone like Trump could fool many of them is unbelievable to me. Or perhaps he didn't fool them at all.
I do know several people who would seem to be the type who would be drawn to him, but they can't stand him. They are as baffled as I am by his appeal.
21. I don't think they're stupid.
Well, some are not too bright, but for the most part, many are actually people who want an excuse to behave badly and are being disingenuous (denying climate change, election results, making excuses for violating ethics and norms, etc) because they don't want people to know just how morally bankrupt they have chosen to become. This is actually what "evil" is. People who take pleasure in harming other people and destroying what other people find beautiful is evil.
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