bgill , having the fever in hope that there is integrity in this buisness model is quite a false hope , it will make you sick ( literally ) , the buisness model is completely stacked in the favor of the " Tinker ",In the form of R&D with NO real teeth for the investor or recourse , the reason this has stayed Penny stock is because of the risk factor , There can be NO assurance of success stated clearly .... and the share structure absorbed by the " Tinkerer" , Give you any clue , Yet !?