Anyone who requires an immediate return from an equity investment, especially on OTC stock, may be too emotionally motivated and thus vulnerable to bad decisions. I learned the hard way in 2002. On the other hand, most people learn by stepping in the bucket of poo on their own. I learned THAT by parenting experience. Growing rich seems to work best, IMO, over a long time, investing in great companies having long runways.....and even when they are rocketing up and "overvalued" (just an aside for my day-trading buddies). GLTU.