I will admit that I had the same thought creep into my mind. I would be pretty surprised after all Dr. Patterson has been involved in over the past few months. He's working on the COVID trials and we don't have much to talk about for a few weeks other than enrollment numbers. It seems as if Dr Lalezari is more on the HIV BLA, while Patterson is doing Cancer and both are working COVID. This next call- same as the last- appears to be about the HIV BLA and the business issues.