Poem, you post from a state of ignorance and you i
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Posted On: 08/26/2019 7:18:22 PM
Poem, you post from a state of ignorance and you ignore facts.
Look at the map. The states with the highest rate of gun deaths? Blue and Dark Blue on the map. RED on the political map.
And for those of you who don't understand the importance of rates? They are the leveler, the equalizer, for differing population levels. And they are the only fair way to accurately measure what is actually going on.
I'm fed up with the posts by assholes on this board that pretend that gun violence is unique to Chicago. Those States with the higher gun death rates? GOP governors for the most part. I thought they had the answers? Guess not.
Bad enough that you self-righteous hillbillies kill yourselves at such high rates, but we have to suffer the gun running because your gun laws are for shit.
F.O. all of you ignoramuses for beating this dead horse. You have nether facts nor virtue on your side on this subject any more than you do for most subjects.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_death_r...s_by_state
Look at the map. The states with the highest rate of gun deaths? Blue and Dark Blue on the map. RED on the political map.
And for those of you who don't understand the importance of rates? They are the leveler, the equalizer, for differing population levels. And they are the only fair way to accurately measure what is actually going on.
I'm fed up with the posts by assholes on this board that pretend that gun violence is unique to Chicago. Those States with the higher gun death rates? GOP governors for the most part. I thought they had the answers? Guess not.
Bad enough that you self-righteous hillbillies kill yourselves at such high rates, but we have to suffer the gun running because your gun laws are for shit.
F.O. all of you ignoramuses for beating this dead horse. You have nether facts nor virtue on your side on this subject any more than you do for most subjects.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_death_r...s_by_state
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State lines don't stop guns
It's important to remember here that Chicago is very close to two states that have relatively weak gun laws: Wisconsin and Indiana . So while it's easy to pick on Chicago (or any other high-crime city) for its ugly statistics, says one expert, taking bordering states into account weakens this gun-advocacy talking point.
"It's not a scientific study. It's an anecdote," said Philip Cook, a professor of public policy studies at Duke University. "They might have pointed to Washington, D.C., back in the days when D.C. banned handguns and yet had high gun-violence rates. Those bans are only at best partially effective, because the borders are permeable."
D.C. borders Virginia, which does not have strong gun laws. (It gets a D from the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.)
Neither Wisconsin nor Indiana requires licenses or permits to purchase a gun, for example, nor do they require waiting periods. While Illinois has that B+ rating from the law center, Wisconsin has a C- and Indiana a D-.
And there's good evidence that being next-door to those states keeps Chicago criminals well-supplied with guns.
A 2015 study of guns in Chicago, co-authored by Cook, found that more than 60 percent of new guns used in Chicago gang-related crimes and 31.6 percent used in non-gang-related crimes between 2009 and 2013 were bought in other states.
Indiana was a particularly heavy supplier, providing nearly one-third of the gang guns and nearly one-fifth of the non-gang guns.
Other evidence corroborates this — a 2014 Chicago Police Department report found that Indiana accounted for 19 percent of all guns recovered by the department between 2009 and 2013.
New firearms trace data from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives released last week likewise shows that Illinois as a whole faces a massive influx of guns. Of around 8,700 firearms recovered in Illinois and for which the bureau found a source state, more than half came from out of state — 1,366, nearly 16 percent, came from Indiana alone.
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