Your either or is conservative orthodoxy in both
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Gee, why isn't Red State America churning out people qualified for those jobs going wanting?
Neither the drop in unemployment nor the rise in the stock market during those 8 years had anything to do with your 'makers VS takers' BS.
And, as you've read repeatedly on this board, the GDP is overwhelmingly being produced in the metro areas you righties revile.
Somehow or other the workers producing that GDP make it in everyday without either stepping in shit or getting shot. Money must be good, I guess.