I've gotta post this thread for the Dark Side. T
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Posted On: 06/07/2012 6:05:08 PM
I've gotta post this thread for the Dark Side. This is between me and Atlanta1
Atlanta1: the production costs of the videos were certainly paid by Mark. whether the participants were paid in cash, free oil filters, free or reduced price for service on their TYTN tractors, Red Lobster dinners, TYTN t-shirts, TYTN hats, TYTN coffee mugs, discounted shares or some other means is mere speculation.
ME; Until you have contacted any one of them and they tell you they were paid advertisers, I see a customer satisfied with his purchase. So satisfied, he is willing to take a few minutes and say it on camera. Personally, I am impressed because I know how much time and effort it takes to make those videos. I also know cost is minimal. (Camera, computer , time)
Atlanta1: Time and effort? to stand in front of a camera for 60 seconds? the time and effort expended are by the producer of the video - which is Mark. and that's my point - he has a vested interest in expending that time and effort. a dissastisfied customer just wants to distance himself from the whole issue and spend as LITTLE time and effort as possible. any time and effort by a dissatisfied customer is expended on trying to get any problems rectified - not on publicity. so the fact there there aren't negative videos on TYTN products that can be readily pulled up and viewed doesn't mean squat, which is how this whole thread started in the first place - a specious claim that there weren't any negative tesimonials on TYTN. but I can guarantee you one thing - there could be quite a few negative testimonials if you want to hear from shareholders who have been devastated by Mark's bumbling antics.
ME: You are implying that there is cost behind the production of them, including paying the customer in one form or another. I am saying that unless you can verify the customer was paid, what we see is a satisfied customer, over and over again, and that the only real cost for Tytan in the production of them is time and effort. I think it is a great marketing tool, I used to do the same. I just think Mark needs to amp up his marketing and advertising efforts. As far as dissatisfied customers, you find them all over the place with all kinds of product. If a Tytan customer was dissatisfied, it would take that same 60 seconds to write something up on Yelp, Yahoo's discussion board or any other venue.
Atlanta1 (this post was edited a few times): no, you miss the original point. someone tried to argue that Tytan was a quality product proven merely by the fact that there were a few positive testimonials available but none that were negative. and regarding Yelp, I seriously doubt if any of our fine farmers give a rat's behind about taking the time to find the site and post a comment about Tytan - mainly because there are so few Tytan customers that the mere perecentages make it highly unlikely. also, re-read my post - I said any suggestion of compensation was "mere speculation". but you can count on most or all of those testimonials being solicited by the company.
ME: No, I got the point . I would put money on the unsatisfied farmer that spends thousands of dollars on a piece of equipment essential for his business, taking the 5 minutes it take to find a place to put forth his opinion of dissatisfaction and do it. This board is a perfect example. The difference is that farmer would do it once and move on!
Seriously the doubters are getting desperate, having to contend with all the positivity. Great job, JoJo, Step and Team.
Atlanta1: the production costs of the videos were certainly paid by Mark. whether the participants were paid in cash, free oil filters, free or reduced price for service on their TYTN tractors, Red Lobster dinners, TYTN t-shirts, TYTN hats, TYTN coffee mugs, discounted shares or some other means is mere speculation.
ME; Until you have contacted any one of them and they tell you they were paid advertisers, I see a customer satisfied with his purchase. So satisfied, he is willing to take a few minutes and say it on camera. Personally, I am impressed because I know how much time and effort it takes to make those videos. I also know cost is minimal. (Camera, computer , time)
Atlanta1: Time and effort? to stand in front of a camera for 60 seconds? the time and effort expended are by the producer of the video - which is Mark. and that's my point - he has a vested interest in expending that time and effort. a dissastisfied customer just wants to distance himself from the whole issue and spend as LITTLE time and effort as possible. any time and effort by a dissatisfied customer is expended on trying to get any problems rectified - not on publicity. so the fact there there aren't negative videos on TYTN products that can be readily pulled up and viewed doesn't mean squat, which is how this whole thread started in the first place - a specious claim that there weren't any negative tesimonials on TYTN. but I can guarantee you one thing - there could be quite a few negative testimonials if you want to hear from shareholders who have been devastated by Mark's bumbling antics.
ME: You are implying that there is cost behind the production of them, including paying the customer in one form or another. I am saying that unless you can verify the customer was paid, what we see is a satisfied customer, over and over again, and that the only real cost for Tytan in the production of them is time and effort. I think it is a great marketing tool, I used to do the same. I just think Mark needs to amp up his marketing and advertising efforts. As far as dissatisfied customers, you find them all over the place with all kinds of product. If a Tytan customer was dissatisfied, it would take that same 60 seconds to write something up on Yelp, Yahoo's discussion board or any other venue.
Atlanta1 (this post was edited a few times): no, you miss the original point. someone tried to argue that Tytan was a quality product proven merely by the fact that there were a few positive testimonials available but none that were negative. and regarding Yelp, I seriously doubt if any of our fine farmers give a rat's behind about taking the time to find the site and post a comment about Tytan - mainly because there are so few Tytan customers that the mere perecentages make it highly unlikely. also, re-read my post - I said any suggestion of compensation was "mere speculation". but you can count on most or all of those testimonials being solicited by the company.
ME: No, I got the point . I would put money on the unsatisfied farmer that spends thousands of dollars on a piece of equipment essential for his business, taking the 5 minutes it take to find a place to put forth his opinion of dissatisfaction and do it. This board is a perfect example. The difference is that farmer would do it once and move on!
Seriously the doubters are getting desperate, having to contend with all the positivity. Great job, JoJo, Step and Team.
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