All great responses; thanks for the replies and co
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I think the debate, and question, is what is an abstract idea. Or in this case is OOBA as defined by SFT patent an abstract idea or specific enough to warrant a 'claim' to it and worthy of being upheld.
Again, I really didn't think about it too heavily at first and then when the appeal was shot down I thought you know this really is abstract.
Then I started to read the patent in more depth and contemplate the ramifications of the idea and actually how prudent it was/is for the times which is really what (imo) it comes down to. At that point (which is now) I don't feel it is abstract when you consider the times we are in.
Ram thought of the idea (that solved a problem within the industry) that hadn't really been implemented or touted yet. That to me is specific and not abstract.
To be ridiculous again, image the idea of having drones deliver a physical piece of paper with a passcode on it to my door to gain access. Is that abstract? There were no drones hundreds of years ago. Is it OOBA - yes. Would it be infringing on SFT's patent? Could it be patented? (Not a realistic idea but you get my drift I hope).
Many things to consider and debate. Good talk. Thanks again.