Has George Built a MFG facility yet and turned out any sales ? All business is driven by sales volume that establishes VALUE . For 30 years there has NOT been ONE sale ,that I am aware of , so there is essentially NO value . But there is the paying for a tinkerer who wants to make news of on going Debt and the un certainty of financing for the Co to go forward while they pay themselves handsomely and award themselves Huge volumes stocks the same , with dilution ongoing . Have you ever watched a toilet flush , We'll imagine it full of your money and ( they) systematically flush your money down the drain , which they have done to every investor since ( its ) inception .... Now we certainly cannot call that an investment .... And that is the History . sadly . And protected by, SAFE Harbor act . Merry Christmas .