Jeez- Janice and I have been sparring since the Raging Bull days. Please don;t try and "educate" me about her. Nobody should listen to her and her crew, just as they should not listen to me (I don't have a crew). The key to longevity n Penny land is learning how to make money on scams as well as legit companies- and right now I still don't have enough info/evidence to make a logical conclusion as to which side of the fence ANDI falls on- I do know that I bout a few million .0006s and no my average is down to a manageable .0051, so any decent pump or actual business success and I go from 6 figure loss to break even /perhaps even green fairly easily. If not, I have a big loss to take in 2019 which will off-set gains over time. Then again, I am a gambler and would not encourage such reckless trading behavior by others.