I tend to agree with you Mrdrifter, as what little we do know is that we've seen little money from them over the years! Thus far it appears to be a relationship that is highly touted, but otherwise has produced very little revenue. Maybe that will change going forward, but thus far its been a disappointing relationship IMHO, with the exception of their contract with McAfee, which resulted in SFOR's technology being incorporated into McAfee's products! But we're still waiting to see any large revenues from that too!