Was Sen. John McCain a ‘Hanoi Hilton

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Was Sen. John McCain a ‘Hanoi Hilton Songbird’?


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A Fox News analyst was fired from the right-wing network in May 2018 after regurgitating a long-standing, long-debunked smear against Sen. John McCain (R-Arizona) and his experiences as a prisoner of war.

Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney was terminated from Fox just one day after insulting the lawmaker for opposing the nomination of Gina Haspel to head the Central Intelligence Agency. McInerney told host Charles Payne that Haspel cannot employ torture (or “enhanced interrogation”) against prisoners:


The fact is, is John McCain, it worked on John. That’s why they call him “Songbird John.” The fact is those methods can work, and they are effective, as former Vice President Cheney said. And if we have to use them to save a million American lives, we will do whatever we have to.

The allegation that he was a “songbird” during his captivity originated with the group Vietnam Veterans Against McCain, which distributed a flyer to media outlets in South Carolina during his 2008 campaign for the Republican Party’s presidential nomination.




The flyer reportedly referred to him as a “Hanoi Hilton Songbird,” a reference to the “Hanoi Hilton,” the nickname for Hỏa Lò Prison. McCain was imprisoned there between 1967 and 1973 during the Vietnam War, and was tortured by North Vietnamese troops.

The claim was roundly debunked at the time by Politifact, which cited both fellow prisoners of war and author Robert Timberg, who interviewed several POWs while writing John McCain: An American Odyssey, a biography of the senator. “I’ve never known of any occasion in which Sen. McCain provided the North Vietnamese with anything of value,” said Timberg, who died in 2016.

Rolling Stone magazine reported in October 2008 that McCain was quoted in a North Vietnamese newspaper story saying that the war was “moving to the advantage of North Vietnam and the United States appears to be isolated.”

The magazine also reported that McCain provided “the name of his ship, the number of raids he had flown, his squadron number and the target of his final raid” and that he was tortured for a two-year period, as opposed to the entirety of his time in Hỏa Lò. However, the magazine added, “it is difficult to judge McCain’s experience as a POW; throughout most of his incarceration he was the only witness to his mistreatment.”

The two men responsible for the flyer, Gerard “Jerry” Kiley and Ted Sampley, formed a similar group in 2004 targeting another Vietnam veteran running for the presidency, then-Democratic Party nominee John Kerry.

The duo has been cited as sources by right-wing blogs pushing the claim that McCain was a “songbird.” Sampley has also called McCain a “Manchurian Candidate.” But as the Phoenix New Times reported in 1999:


Sampley offers no credible proof of these allegations, other than quotes from unnamed former POWs and suggestions that the Vietnamese still have film of McCain’s activities in the prison camps.




Questionable and conspiracy-minded blogs have also tried very hard to promote the false claim that McCain was to blame for the July 1967 fire aboard the USS Forrestal that ended with the deaths of 134 sailors, and also injuries to McCain and 160 other service members.

McInerney’s remark came after McCain encouraged fellow senators to reject Haspel, who was allegedly the person in charge of a CIA “black site” during the waterboarding of a prisoner, Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. The network reportedly said that he will not be asked to appear there again.

In a statement, McCain, who chairs the Senate Armed Services Committee, said:


I believe Gina Haspel is a patriot who loves our country and has devoted her professional life to its service and defense. However, Ms. Haspel’s role in overseeing the use of torture by Americans is disturbing. Her refusal to acknowledge torture’s immorality is disqualifying. I believe the Senate should exercise its duty of advice and consent and reject this nomination.

We contacted McCain’s office seeking comment, but have yet to receive a response. On 10 May 2018, Payne posted an apology on Twitter to the senator and his family.

“I regret I did not catch this remark, as it should have been challenged,” Payne said. “As a proud military veteran and son of a Vietnam Vet these words neither reflect my or the network’s feelings about Senator McCain, or his remarkable service and sacrifice to this country.”

The same day that McInerney insulted the lawmaker, McCain — who was diagnosed with brain cancer in July 2017 — was also reportedly mocked by a White House official, special assistant Kelly Sadler. Sadler allegedly said of McCain’s opposition to Haspel’s nomination, “It doesn’t matter, he’s dying anyway.”

The remark harkened back to the long-running series of clashes between McCain and President Donald Trump. In July 2015, then-candidate Donald Trump said of the lawmaker, “He’s not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

A Fox News analyst was fired from the right-wing network in May 2018 after regurgitating a long-standing, long-debunked smear against Sen. John McCain (R-Arizona) and his experiences as a prisoner of war.

Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney was terminated from Fox just one day after insulting the lawmaker for opposing the nomination of Gina Haspel to head the Central Intelligence Agency. McInerney told host Charles Payne that Haspel cannot employ torture (or “enhanced interrogation”) against prisoners:


The fact is, is John McCain, it worked on John. That’s why they call him “Songbird John.” The fact is those methods can work, and they are effective, as former Vice President Cheney said. And if we have to use them to save a million American lives, we will do whatever we have to.

The allegation that he was a “songbird” during his captivity originated with the group Vietnam Veterans Against McCain, which distributed a flyer to media outlets in South Carolina during his 2008 campaign for the Republican Party’s presidential nomination.

The flyer reportedly referred to him as a “Hanoi Hilton Songbird,” a reference to the “Hanoi Hilton,” the nickname for Hỏa Lò Prison. McCain was imprisoned there between 1967 and 1973 during the Vietnam War, and was tortured by North Vietnamese troops.

The claim was roundly debunked at the time by Politifact, which cited both fellow prisoners of war and author Robert Timberg, who interviewed several POWs while writing John McCain: An American Odyssey, a biography of the senator. “I’ve never known of any occasion in which Sen. McCain provided the North Vietnamese with anything of value,” said Timberg, who died in 2016.

Rolling Stone magazine reported in October 2008 that McCain was quoted in a North Vietnamese newspaper story saying that the war was “moving to the advantage of North Vietnam and the United States appears to be isolated.”

The magazine also reported that McCain provided “the name of his ship, the number of raids he had flown, his squadron number and the target of his final raid” and that he was tortured for a two-year period, as opposed to the entirety of his time in Hỏa Lò. However, the magazine added, “it is difficult to judge McCain’s experience as a POW; throughout most of his incarceration he was the only witness to his mistreatment.”

The two men responsible for the flyer, Gerard “Jerry” Kiley and Ted Sampley, formed a similar group in 2004 targeting another Vietnam veteran running for the presidency, then-Democratic Party nominee John Kerry.

The duo has been cited as sources by right-wing blogs pushing the claim that McCain was a “songbird.” Sampley has also called McCain a “Manchurian Candidate.” But as the Phoenix New Times reported in 1999:


Sampley offers no credible proof of these allegations, other than quotes from unnamed former POWs and suggestions that the Vietnamese still have film of McCain’s activities in the prison camps.

Questionable and conspiracy-minded blogs have also tried very hard to promote the false claim that McCain was to blame for the July 1967 fire aboard the USS Forrestal that ended with the deaths of 134 sailors, and also injuries to McCain and 160 other service members.

McInerney’s remark came after McCain encouraged fellow senators to reject Haspel, who was allegedly the person in charge of a CIA “black site” during the waterboarding of a prisoner, Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. The network reportedly said that he will not be asked to appear there again.

In a statement, McCain, who chairs the Senate Armed Services Committee, said:


I believe Gina Haspel is a patriot who loves our country and has devoted her professional life to its service and defense. However, Ms. Haspel’s role in overseeing the use of torture by Americans is disturbing. Her refusal to acknowledge torture’s immorality is disqualifying. I believe the Senate should exercise its duty of advice and consent and reject this nomination.

We contacted McCain’s office seeking comment, but have yet to receive a response. On 10 May 2018, Payne posted an apology on Twitter to the senator and his family.

“I regret I did not catch this remark, as it should have been challenged,” Payne said. “As a proud military veteran and son of a Vietnam Vet these words neither reflect my or the network’s feelings about Senator McCain, or his remarkable service and sacrifice to this country.”

The same day that McInerney insulted the lawmaker, McCain — who was diagnosed with brain cancer in July 2017 — was also reportedly mocked by a White House official, special assistant Kelly Sadler. Sadler allegedly said of McCain’s opposition to Haspel’s nomination, “It doesn’t matter, he’s dying anyway.”

The remark harkened back to the long-running series of clashes between McCain and President Donald Trump. In July 2015, then-candidate Donald Trump said of the lawmaker, “He’s not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”