In other words. . . Ignore the past 25 years? Buy at this price, then Pump and Dump on the rise. That's the approved method to make money on this site. bgill is the first to come right out and admit it as far as I remember. (actually it's the only way anyone but George has ever made money on this stock.) His method of dumping is what is politely called "toxic loans". With zero sales, cash flow can never be anything but negative. George's business plan maybe started out legit but it has evolved to a scam imo.