I hear you.. i think we're all a little frustrated but it seems like everyone is in panic mode and nothing has really changed with Utopya to cause it.. I feel like flippers and shorts are just getting to everyone.. I dont know much about non disclosure agreements but that's what I choose to believe is the reason for the non communication.. if what they have is special I can see why they wouldn't want the competition to know about it ahead of time and before it goes to market