You're "assuming" that the people at Utopya could give a "fuck" about it's shareholders. I would say if "trip holders" sucked you in then you don't invest on your own DD. You should probably sell and walk away. I for one AM NOT a trip holder. I am deep red. This is by far NOT the worst investment I have made. We won't go there lol. I am holding strong and am willing to give this "start up" time to develop and deliver.