Interesting post from Hedge2019 on the other site.
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Posted On: 04/23/2018 2:08:05 PM
Interesting post from Hedge2019 on the other site. Thought it was worth sharing here. All credit to him. I'm not sure if he is on this forum.
ANDI-UTOPYA PPS "POTENTIAL" 20 CENTS 2018:
Updated and corrected
nothing is certain this is just speculation and potential.
I used O/S 4 BILLION instead of 3B.( 1B increase)
and only useD the price/sales ratio as we have no clue on P/E.
AND ONLY ONE PERCENT OF THE GROWTH IN SMART PHONES NEW USERS INDIA OVER NEXT 3 YEARS BASED ON WWW.STATISTA.COM REPORT
WITH ZERO SALES FORECAST FOR US OR EUROPE OR REST of ASIA ( which is impossible anyway to have zero sales)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/274658/fo...-in-india/
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW THE MARKETS UTOPYA WILL GO AFTER.
LET's CONSIDER INDIA SOLELY FOR NOW AND LET's FORGET RIDICULOUS DOLLARS PRICE PER SHARE HERE or even 50 cents. A CONSERVATIVE BUT RELATIVELY FAIR VIEW IS THE FOLLOWING:
CONSIDER ONLY THE INDIA SMART PHONES SALES:
120 MILLION MORE SMART PHONES USERS TO BE SOLD FORECAST FROM 2018 TO 2021 see link below.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/274658/fo...-in-india/
CONSIDER LET'S SAY USD 200.00 PER SMART PHONE ( WE ARE TALKING OF SMART PHONE NEW USERS ONLY NOT CELL PHONES AND SMART PHONES)
CONSIDER ONLY ONE UTOPYA DEVICE
THAT IS A MARKET GROWTH FOR INDIA ONLY, OVER 3 YEARS, OF
$ 24 BILLION ( 120 million units x 200 $ )
IF UTOPYA GRABS ONLY 1 PERCENT: THAT IS $240 MILLION IN REVENUES ( ie 1.2 million phones over 3 years or 400k units per year)
IF WE CONSIDER A P/S RATIO OF 10 AS IT IS A GROWING START UP NEW BUSINESS: ( APPLE AND MOTOROLA P/S RATIOS ARE IN 3-4 range !!!)
THAT MEANS A MARKET CAP OF USD 2.4B (10 x $ 240 Millions sales) SO CONSIDER 4 BILLION SHARES outstanding THAT IS A PPS OF 60 CENTS ( 2.4B/4B = USD 0.60) but this is for 3 years.
so let s consider one year of sales same ratios: PPS .60/3= 20 CENTS
NOT CONSIDERING ANY OTHER MARKET THAN THE INDIA MARKET !
https://www.statista.com/statistics/274658/fo...-in-india/ abstract:
The statistic shows the number of mobile phone users in India from 2013 to 2019. For 2017 the number of mobile phone users in India is expected to rise to 730.7 million. In this same year the number of smartphone users in India is predicted to reach 340 million and could reach almost 468 million by 2021.
ANDI-UTOPYA PPS "POTENTIAL" 20 CENTS 2018:
Updated and corrected
nothing is certain this is just speculation and potential.
I used O/S 4 BILLION instead of 3B.( 1B increase)
and only useD the price/sales ratio as we have no clue on P/E.
AND ONLY ONE PERCENT OF THE GROWTH IN SMART PHONES NEW USERS INDIA OVER NEXT 3 YEARS BASED ON WWW.STATISTA.COM REPORT
WITH ZERO SALES FORECAST FOR US OR EUROPE OR REST of ASIA ( which is impossible anyway to have zero sales)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/274658/fo...-in-india/
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW THE MARKETS UTOPYA WILL GO AFTER.
LET's CONSIDER INDIA SOLELY FOR NOW AND LET's FORGET RIDICULOUS DOLLARS PRICE PER SHARE HERE or even 50 cents. A CONSERVATIVE BUT RELATIVELY FAIR VIEW IS THE FOLLOWING:
CONSIDER ONLY THE INDIA SMART PHONES SALES:
120 MILLION MORE SMART PHONES USERS TO BE SOLD FORECAST FROM 2018 TO 2021 see link below.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/274658/fo...-in-india/
CONSIDER LET'S SAY USD 200.00 PER SMART PHONE ( WE ARE TALKING OF SMART PHONE NEW USERS ONLY NOT CELL PHONES AND SMART PHONES)
CONSIDER ONLY ONE UTOPYA DEVICE
THAT IS A MARKET GROWTH FOR INDIA ONLY, OVER 3 YEARS, OF
$ 24 BILLION ( 120 million units x 200 $ )
IF UTOPYA GRABS ONLY 1 PERCENT: THAT IS $240 MILLION IN REVENUES ( ie 1.2 million phones over 3 years or 400k units per year)
IF WE CONSIDER A P/S RATIO OF 10 AS IT IS A GROWING START UP NEW BUSINESS: ( APPLE AND MOTOROLA P/S RATIOS ARE IN 3-4 range !!!)
THAT MEANS A MARKET CAP OF USD 2.4B (10 x $ 240 Millions sales) SO CONSIDER 4 BILLION SHARES outstanding THAT IS A PPS OF 60 CENTS ( 2.4B/4B = USD 0.60) but this is for 3 years.
so let s consider one year of sales same ratios: PPS .60/3= 20 CENTS
NOT CONSIDERING ANY OTHER MARKET THAN THE INDIA MARKET !
https://www.statista.com/statistics/274658/fo...-in-india/ abstract:
The statistic shows the number of mobile phone users in India from 2013 to 2019. For 2017 the number of mobile phone users in India is expected to rise to 730.7 million. In this same year the number of smartphone users in India is predicted to reach 340 million and could reach almost 468 million by 2021.
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