Yeah, hard to compete with market makers and flippers. They drop 5000 bucks and then flip it on one tick up. I get it, they are making good money but it kills the stock and makes it hard for it to ever go anywhere. I think most people eventually give up on penny stocks. Better luck playing scratch off tickets in the lottery. Just gotta be patient and hope good or better news comes out and runs it up faster than they can flip it.