Reading these post make me laugh. Having been in this group for over a year we never whined, or spoke bad about SFOR. But pulling people from IHub over here has been comical. It's not about us folks, it is about the company and what they offer to the public to protect our selves and others who buy the products. Being a share holder and a owner of the product is what we have chosen to become to support and make money as well. Stop the complaining and your money will grow when the company grows. Mark Kay has been on top of things since I have known of him, let him do his thing with his people. Your sour mouth is not doing anything for yourself or others when you complain about PPS. Relax, and let the show move forward and grow.